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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.morningsidemom.com/2009/03/27/experiencing-a-mothers-burqa/comment-page-1/#comment-13854</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 02:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nowhere in Qur&#039;an does it say to wear the burqa. All it says is that everyone, including men, must dress modestly.
I have learned that the burqa came about because certain men would try to watch Mohammed&#039;s wives while they were bathing or taking care of business (to use discreet wording) and when it was brought to Mohammed&#039;s attention he said they were to cover themselves during those times. Though that may not be correct and maybe he just said that they should be in a covered area away from leering men&#039;s eyes. 

So much of what Mohammed has said and what has been written in Qur&#039;an has become mangled by those who wish to purport what they believe rather than was is true.
If one is taught from birth that there is to be pride when wearing burqa, then of course there will be that pride.
You seem to be confusing a form of brainwashing with actually Qur&#039;anic teaching.
Even just the head scarf came about when the women saw the icons of the Mother Mary and thought the look was becoming. It was only a fashion statement that has become like a law.
In Islam, there are to be no symbols offering what it stands for and yet when the women wear such things they are doing so. They are missing a cross or Star of David and are wanting of some kind of symbol. So they turn to hajib or burqa. But this is really against teaching.
Now these things are used to subjugate the women and make them into nothing which is very much the mindset of the men in power of those countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nowhere in Qur&#8217;an does it say to wear the burqa. All it says is that everyone, including men, must dress modestly.<br />
I have learned that the burqa came about because certain men would try to watch Mohammed&#8217;s wives while they were bathing or taking care of business (to use discreet wording) and when it was brought to Mohammed&#8217;s attention he said they were to cover themselves during those times. Though that may not be correct and maybe he just said that they should be in a covered area away from leering men&#8217;s eyes. </p>
<p>So much of what Mohammed has said and what has been written in Qur&#8217;an has become mangled by those who wish to purport what they believe rather than was is true.<br />
If one is taught from birth that there is to be pride when wearing burqa, then of course there will be that pride.<br />
You seem to be confusing a form of brainwashing with actually Qur&#8217;anic teaching.<br />
Even just the head scarf came about when the women saw the icons of the Mother Mary and thought the look was becoming. It was only a fashion statement that has become like a law.<br />
In Islam, there are to be no symbols offering what it stands for and yet when the women wear such things they are doing so. They are missing a cross or Star of David and are wanting of some kind of symbol. So they turn to hajib or burqa. But this is really against teaching.<br />
Now these things are used to subjugate the women and make them into nothing which is very much the mindset of the men in power of those countries.</p>
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		<title>By: dawne</title>
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		<dc:creator>dawne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys the right thing to do is to read the Quran all your answers are in there you can read it online or at the library or ask a muslim  they are not as bad as the media make them to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys the right thing to do is to read the Quran all your answers are in there you can read it online or at the library or ask a muslim  they are not as bad as the media make them to be.</p>
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		<title>By: panxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>panxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure in which way a shuttlecock burqa is to be enjoyed, especially by the wearer.

The woman on whom it has had to be imposed is wearing it to demonstrate her fidelity to female honour, chastity, Islamic modesty, morality. She wears it with pride.

She complains that it is hot, and indeed it is hot here anyway; sometimes claustrophobic; that the head piece is tight (she has been told it is meant to be so it does not slip off); that she can see very little (how else would he face be hidden); and has become effectively invisible, a cipher of what she was before, and when she first had to put it on thought of it as a cloth prison.

I have said that by donning it she has demonstrated a dignified and proper behaviour, as sanctioned by all leading clerics, the Koran, and that it is not her fault she is a woman, but since she is, she should in silence and obedience surrender herself to the proper duties of her sex.

It is fortunate that she understands this duty.

But enjoy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure in which way a shuttlecock burqa is to be enjoyed, especially by the wearer.</p>
<p>The woman on whom it has had to be imposed is wearing it to demonstrate her fidelity to female honour, chastity, Islamic modesty, morality. She wears it with pride.</p>
<p>She complains that it is hot, and indeed it is hot here anyway; sometimes claustrophobic; that the head piece is tight (she has been told it is meant to be so it does not slip off); that she can see very little (how else would he face be hidden); and has become effectively invisible, a cipher of what she was before, and when she first had to put it on thought of it as a cloth prison.</p>
<p>I have said that by donning it she has demonstrated a dignified and proper behaviour, as sanctioned by all leading clerics, the Koran, and that it is not her fault she is a woman, but since she is, she should in silence and obedience surrender herself to the proper duties of her sex.</p>
<p>It is fortunate that she understands this duty.</p>
<p>But enjoy?</p>
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		<title>By: OntKid</title>
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		<dc:creator>OntKid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats  intrigueing how they continue with such practices... (forgive me for lack of words) but it seems that they are being dehumanized and that they ARE being disrespected as &#039;Objects&#039; instead of dignified humans. Of course I cannot comprehend why they continue to wear these clothings, but I do understand and respect their principle of covering their bodies, but does it really have to go so far as to trap them in a cage-like clothing. It seems to me that the &#039;clothing&#039; they wear is a way men control women in the country. It kind upsets me that they sometimes do not choose to wear it but have to anyways cause it their &quot;Culture&quot; but isn&#039;t culture suppose to allow a type of freedom ? Of course thats my thought on this but I can&#039;t really say I&#039;m not bias&#039;ed either. (Sadly I wish I knew more but in this case limited knowledge isn&#039;t so great to have).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats  intrigueing how they continue with such practices&#8230; (forgive me for lack of words) but it seems that they are being dehumanized and that they ARE being disrespected as &#8216;Objects&#8217; instead of dignified humans. Of course I cannot comprehend why they continue to wear these clothings, but I do understand and respect their principle of covering their bodies, but does it really have to go so far as to trap them in a cage-like clothing. It seems to me that the &#8216;clothing&#8217; they wear is a way men control women in the country. It kind upsets me that they sometimes do not choose to wear it but have to anyways cause it their &#8220;Culture&#8221; but isn&#8217;t culture suppose to allow a type of freedom ? Of course thats my thought on this but I can&#8217;t really say I&#8217;m not bias&#8217;ed either. (Sadly I wish I knew more but in this case limited knowledge isn&#8217;t so great to have).</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Great post. And I think I really like your father.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Becky’s last blog post... &lt;a href=&quot;http://deepmuckbigrake.com/2009/04/22/update-on-robins-nest/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Update on robin’s nest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Great post. And I think I really like your father.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Becky’s last blog post&#8230; <a href="http://deepmuckbigrake.com/2009/04/22/update-on-robins-nest/">Update on robin’s nest</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some Muslim friends who wear some less extreme types of coverings, and they all find it an empowering way to present themselves as mental and spiritual beings, and not as public sex objects.  (I believe the original rule was to cover the hair, as a woman&#039;s hair was considered in the culture to be one of her most alluring attributes)  

Yeah, yeah, I&#039;m not culturally used to the burqua, and I&#039;m all too Western, and whatever other disclaimer I&#039;m supposed to put on there...but, from what I understand of Muslim coverings, the burqua almost seems to have the OPPOSITE effect of the admirable intent many see in this requirement of Islam.   A woman wearing a burqua seems dehumanized to so many.   There is no visible sign that she is even human.   There are no eyes, no face to convey emotion or thought...it seems like the woman in a burqua is easier to repress, abuse, or even execute because it is easier for her oppressors to think of her as a non-person.  

I can understand my friend&#039;s claim that she feels *more* respected in her chador because she has chosen to present herself in a way that actively keeps her sexuality off limits to the viewing public.  Many faiths and cultures espouse &quot;modesty&quot; as not only an issue of purity, but also as a factor that maintains respect for women.   But, the burqua, to me, is just that step to far...it is the step that declares that a woman&#039;s humanity and her sexuality are so intertwined that the only options for a female are &quot;sexually available to all&quot; (just try to prosecute the rape of any woman, especially one out of a burqua)  or &quot;completely covered.&quot;  

I guess that I understand and respect the philosophy behind the &quot;modest dress&quot; requirements of many faiths and cultures, but have a problem when that extends to covering every inch of our bodies.   I mean, dude.   I know I&#039;m totally hot and all, but do we really think that a glimpse of any part of my body at all is an allure not to be resisted?   Please.

It would be nice if we could reconcile all of our nice liberal urges in to one multi-culti feminist package.  But, the fact of the matter is, feminism is not about respecting existing cultures.  Feminism is about challenging the patriarchy that&#039;s inherent in existing cultures.   It&#039;s only fair to start at home...but, I don&#039;t think you need to feel like some kind of entitled imperialist just because you are uncomfortable in a burqua.   I&#039;m glad you highlighted the practical discomforts that women in Afganistan live with every day...it&#039;s not just a metaphor for a claustrophobic life.   Its inconvenient, uncomfortable, and dehumanizing on a practical daily level.   

Wow.  That&#039;s the most academic thing I&#039;ve written in years.   I feel I should balance it out by stating that your niece E drew a lovely picture of  B.O.B.  from &quot;Monsters and Aliens,&quot; and explained to me that &quot;he looks like slippery boogies...the ones you tell me not to eat.&quot;   There.   we&#039;ve rebalanced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some Muslim friends who wear some less extreme types of coverings, and they all find it an empowering way to present themselves as mental and spiritual beings, and not as public sex objects.  (I believe the original rule was to cover the hair, as a woman&#8217;s hair was considered in the culture to be one of her most alluring attributes)  </p>
<p>Yeah, yeah, I&#8217;m not culturally used to the burqua, and I&#8217;m all too Western, and whatever other disclaimer I&#8217;m supposed to put on there&#8230;but, from what I understand of Muslim coverings, the burqua almost seems to have the OPPOSITE effect of the admirable intent many see in this requirement of Islam.   A woman wearing a burqua seems dehumanized to so many.   There is no visible sign that she is even human.   There are no eyes, no face to convey emotion or thought&#8230;it seems like the woman in a burqua is easier to repress, abuse, or even execute because it is easier for her oppressors to think of her as a non-person.  </p>
<p>I can understand my friend&#8217;s claim that she feels *more* respected in her chador because she has chosen to present herself in a way that actively keeps her sexuality off limits to the viewing public.  Many faiths and cultures espouse &#8220;modesty&#8221; as not only an issue of purity, but also as a factor that maintains respect for women.   But, the burqua, to me, is just that step to far&#8230;it is the step that declares that a woman&#8217;s humanity and her sexuality are so intertwined that the only options for a female are &#8220;sexually available to all&#8221; (just try to prosecute the rape of any woman, especially one out of a burqua)  or &#8220;completely covered.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I guess that I understand and respect the philosophy behind the &#8220;modest dress&#8221; requirements of many faiths and cultures, but have a problem when that extends to covering every inch of our bodies.   I mean, dude.   I know I&#8217;m totally hot and all, but do we really think that a glimpse of any part of my body at all is an allure not to be resisted?   Please.</p>
<p>It would be nice if we could reconcile all of our nice liberal urges in to one multi-culti feminist package.  But, the fact of the matter is, feminism is not about respecting existing cultures.  Feminism is about challenging the patriarchy that&#8217;s inherent in existing cultures.   It&#8217;s only fair to start at home&#8230;but, I don&#8217;t think you need to feel like some kind of entitled imperialist just because you are uncomfortable in a burqua.   I&#8217;m glad you highlighted the practical discomforts that women in Afganistan live with every day&#8230;it&#8217;s not just a metaphor for a claustrophobic life.   Its inconvenient, uncomfortable, and dehumanizing on a practical daily level.   </p>
<p>Wow.  That&#8217;s the most academic thing I&#8217;ve written in years.   I feel I should balance it out by stating that your niece E drew a lovely picture of  B.O.B.  from &#8220;Monsters and Aliens,&#8221; and explained to me that &#8220;he looks like slippery boogies&#8230;the ones you tell me not to eat.&#8221;   There.   we&#8217;ve rebalanced.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Britt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Britt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so, so in awe of this post.

You are a truly remarkable woman and a gift to other women.

Thanks for sharing this.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Miss Britt’s last blog post... &lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MissBritt/~3/x8jQBGqEsGI/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I swear to God I’m going to have to be on Leno before these bastards take me seriously&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so, so in awe of this post.</p>
<p>You are a truly remarkable woman and a gift to other women.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing this.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Miss Britt’s last blog post&#8230; <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MissBritt/~3/x8jQBGqEsGI/">I swear to God I’m going to have to be on Leno before these bastards take me seriously</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing this insight with us.  Personally I could never wear one myself without losing my noodles but this did help me gain even more respect for our fellow women who do.  Women are strong, patient, and giving souls and it&#039;s amazing to see how others of us live each day and how those attributes are tested.

Walk a mile in someone else&#039;s shoes.  

Thanks again.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Joy’s last blog post... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mommysjoy.com/2009/03/31/suburbanized/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Suburbanized&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing this insight with us.  Personally I could never wear one myself without losing my noodles but this did help me gain even more respect for our fellow women who do.  Women are strong, patient, and giving souls and it&#8217;s amazing to see how others of us live each day and how those attributes are tested.</p>
<p>Walk a mile in someone else&#8217;s shoes.  </p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Joy’s last blog post&#8230; <a href="http://www.mommysjoy.com/2009/03/31/suburbanized/">Suburbanized</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Marinka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marinka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fascinating. I&#039;ve thought about burqas, but more along the lines of shape-hiding-wear, like comfortable sweatpants.

I can&#039;t imagine wearing it.  Of course I also can&#039;t imagine wearing a thing, so I&#039;m an equal opportunity can&#039;t imaginer.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Marinka’s last blog post... &lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/vSUd/~3/cloOZ7ii2yA/treatment.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Treatment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fascinating. I&#8217;ve thought about burqas, but more along the lines of shape-hiding-wear, like comfortable sweatpants.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine wearing it.  Of course I also can&#8217;t imagine wearing a thing, so I&#8217;m an equal opportunity can&#8217;t imaginer.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Marinka’s last blog post&#8230; <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/vSUd/~3/cloOZ7ii2yA/treatment.html">Treatment</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: tcmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tcmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYCity Mama, I hear you. I can&#039;t help but feel that way also. And I think there are many women who don&#039;t want to wear it. Regardless, if they want to or not, its worn often. And imagining my life - but with a burqa on - is a bit of a wake up call for me.

If this topic interests anyone here, I encourage you to read &quot;A Thousand Splendid Suns&quot;. You will learn so much about the life of a woman from Afghanistan. It is an excellent book, I couldn&#039;t put it down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYCity Mama, I hear you. I can&#8217;t help but feel that way also. And I think there are many women who don&#8217;t want to wear it. Regardless, if they want to or not, its worn often. And imagining my life &#8211; but with a burqa on &#8211; is a bit of a wake up call for me.</p>
<p>If this topic interests anyone here, I encourage you to read &#8220;A Thousand Splendid Suns&#8221;. You will learn so much about the life of a woman from Afghanistan. It is an excellent book, I couldn&#8217;t put it down!</p>
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